Developer meeting August 2012
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Developer meetings > August 2012 meeting notes
| Time | 13:00 UTC on Tuesday, 28 August 2012 |
| Meeting room | Moodle Dev Meeting Course |
In this meeting we focussed on activities outside Moodle HQ.
Invited speaker: Andrew Nicols (LUNS)
Andrew spoke about Lancaster University's move from Lotus Notes to Moodle.
Activity Chooser
- As part of this he wrote the new Activity Chooser, inspired by a the Quiz Bank Chooser.
- The Activity chooser is written using YUI and Moodle renderers. It is modular. Improvements in usability have been made.
Course page changes with JavaScript
- The LUNS team re-wrote the moving of sections and resources using drag-and-drop.
- They added the potential to rename activities on the course page.
- Hopefully the changes will make Moodle more resilient.
Barriers to implementation
- Andrew attempted to get feedback from HQ, devs and end users through multiple channels (Tracker, a demo site, posting in the General Developer and Usability forums, screencasts, Twitter, a demo at a General Developer meeting), but wished he had received more.
- Forums can be intimidating. Developer chat can be quicker and useful.
- A mentor scheme may be helpful in future.
Thanks to Andrew and others at LUNS for their efforts. Thanks for Dan Poltawski for helping as an intermediary.
Moodle 2.4 progress
- There will be a strict code freeze six weeks before 2.4 release, which is in six weeks time. Changes not in by that time will be delayed to 2.5.
- Performance is an area we are working. Sam Hemelryk is developing the Moodle Universal Cache (MUC). This will introduce a common caching architecture with three kinds of caching: static, session and shared.
- Course category management is another area that Sam is working on, but no progress has been made recently (forum).
- Barbara Romero is creating new icon sets that will be more consistent, clearer and more attractive.
- ForumNG is being reviewed as a possible replacement.
- iCal integration with the Calendar is ready to integrate.
- Course formats are being refactored.
- An audio/video recording repository was developed as a GSoC project and may be considered for integration into core.
- Collection module (to be called Survey) is about 60% done.
Hackfest
- We will have various groups of difference sizes.
- A general outcome will be to set the roadmap for the next few years.
Other business
- Tim is working on improving searching for students when enrolling into courses and required feedback (MDL-34657).
- The death of CVS is imminent. We will stop mirroring to CVS soon.
If you would like to correct these notes, please edit this page this page or email Michael d.
Meeting chat log
| Paul Vaughan | 14:54 | Good afternoon. :) |
| Tim Hunt | 14:54 | That's weird. I cannot resize this Firefox window that has the BBB UI in. |
| Andrew Nicols | 14:55 | Hi Martin |
| Mary Cooch | 14:55 | bonjour |
| Andrew Nicols | 14:55 | Hey - I've got some slides instead |
| Andrew Nicols | 14:55 | Cheers |
| Andrew Nicols | 14:55 | Wooh magic |
| Tim Hunt | 14:56 | The new BBB UI is nicer than it was before |
| Andrew Nicols | 14:56 | Hopefully these will convert nicely - I've just checked them on our local insatllation |
| Andrew Nicols | 14:56 | Had some issues with bullet points etc |
| Helen Foster | 14:56 | not really, hmm |
| Mary Cooch | 14:57 | ooh! Andrew |
| Helen Foster | 14:57 | nice to see you Andrew! |
| Adrian Greeve | 14:58 | Should there be sound? |
| Mary Cooch | 14:58 | I can hear |
| Adrian Greeve | 14:59 | curses. |
| Davo Smith | 14:59 | what's the magic setting for enabling soud? |
| Andrew Nicols | 14:59 | Shouldn't be nything special afaik - I had to click 'Join Audio' |
| Helen Foster | 15:00 | sound preferences on your computer? |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:00 | Did he have his Theremin? |
| Tim Hunt | 15:01 | Is someone remembering to record this? |
| Tim Hunt | 15:01 | Ah, cool! |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:03 | who is that long-haired guy? lol |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:03 | :p |
| Mary Cooch | 15:03 | it's lovely hair :) |
| David Mudrák | 15:03 | /me says hello to Andrew, Martin and Apu |
| Davo Smith | 15:03 | Yay - closing browser and reopening seems to have fixed the sound for me |
| David Mudrák | 15:03 | DISCO! |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:03 | It's a bit long at the moment |
| Helen Foster | 15:03 | I promised Michael d that I would write some meeting notes. Is it best to do so here or in the dev chat? |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:03 | the main question is.. what's Moodle? |
| Helen Foster | 15:04 | +1 to lovely hair |
| Itamar Tzadok | 15:04 | hy |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:05 | Hello :) |
| Paul Vaughan | 15:05 | Hi! :) |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:06 | Nice to actually see you Andrew |
| Tim Hunt | 15:10 | That was very early in the cycle fo my learning JS. |
| Tim Hunt | 15:11 | Has that been integrated yet? |
| Tim Hunt | 15:11 | Sure, but please submit for peer review soon! |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:14 | To prevent the main window from scrolling, did you turn overflow to hidden on the body? |
| Helen Foster | 15:15 | what are toolboxes? |
| Helen Foster | 15:15 | ah, thanks! |
| Mary Cooch | 15:17 | nice |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:17 | yes yes |
| Itamar Tzadok | 15:17 | About the chooser if there many modules there is scroll. So perhaps collapsibility of the two sections activities and resources |
| Tim Hunt | 15:17 | ForumNG needs an Ajax HTML editor too. |
| sam marshall | 15:18 | re htmleditor - consider iframe (I'm switching forumng from pure ajax to iframe for the editors) |
| David Mudrák | 15:18 | we all need it. it's the matter of core cupport for preparing draft areas AFAIK |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:18 | Could drag and drop to change order, and it stays that way |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:18 | yeah |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:18 | Its a really good enhancement :) |
| Tim Hunt | 15:19 | It is really hard to get feedback. |
| Paul Vaughan | 15:19 | Andrew, what's your Twitter username? |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:20 | that's coz you use the wrong language, lol. |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:20 | _andrewrn_ |
| Paul Vaughan | 15:20 | Thx :) |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:20 | Did you ask for a posting on MoodleNews? |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:21 | (very good points, that slide ones) |
| David Mudrák | 15:21 | that's important feedback for HQ |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:21 | :-( we don't want to be scary |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:21 | BOO |
| Mary Cooch | 15:22 | thats a pity you feel that |
| Paul Vaughan | 15:22 | Releasing even a little block is scary! |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:22 | Tim, Dan and Davo are really helpful in the developer forum :) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:22 | I'm scared what the hell you all eat @ LUNS, monsters! |
| Mary Evans | 15:22 | lol |
| Juergen Zimmer | 15:23 | sorry, also pretty new to moodle devel. Where do I find the developer chat? I keep bothering Tim ;) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:23 | monsters (developing, of course, lol) |
| Mary Cooch | 15:23 | anonymous forum -hmmm |
| Mark Johnson | 15:23 | Developer chat isn't very well advertised |
| Juergen Zimmer | 15:23 | Cool, Tim is my mentor then ;) |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:23 | What's the link for Developer Chat? |
| Mark Johnson | 15:23 | you have to know its there and go looking for it |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:23 | that last one has been on my wishlist for a while |
| Mark Johnson | 15:24 | http://moodle.org/local/chatlogs/info.php |
| Juergen Zimmer | 15:24 | thanks |
| Gavin Henrick | 15:24 | with your background in human interaction, what did you think about moving from 2 clicks to 3? from drop downs, to using the UI. |
| Tim Hunt | 15:24 | http://moodle.org/local/chatlogs/info.php |
| Steve Bader | 15:24 | I'm new as well, now I am a full time developer for Moodle for my University. New resources are great! |
| sam marshall | 15:24 | click +double click, innit? |
| Juergen Zimmer | 15:24 | "Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that (View chat logs)" |
| sam marshall | 15:24 | new one |
| Rex Lorenzo | 15:24 | I get the same error |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:25 | Thanks Mark, I don't have access, please could Contrib developers have access too :) |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:25 | It's less decisions |
| Gavin Henrick | 15:25 | sam, yes, thats 3 :) |
| Tim Hunt | 15:25 | The problem with suggestions like anonymous forums, etc. is that they go against Moodle's pedagogy. https://docs.moodle.org/23/en/Pedagogy#Social_Constructionism_as_a_Referent |
| Mark Johnson | 15:25 | ah, you might need to be a core committer (?) |
| Gavin Henrick | 15:25 | try adding 1000 url resources, the extra clicks count |
| David Mudrák | 15:25 | IIRC Developers chat is open for Moodle contributors, isn't it? |
| sam marshall | 15:25 | 3 clicks > 1 + double, imo :) |
| Tim Hunt | 15:25 | 4. Useful to knowo someone's brackground if you are answering their question. |
| Helen Foster | 15:25 | Gareth, get in touch with me, I'll let you in! |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:25 | Thanks Helen :) |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:25 | Jabber to developers@conference.moodle.org |
| Helen Foster | 15:26 | or anyone else (until we automate access) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:26 | we also need planet.moodle.org to explode and accept more sources. |
| Davo Smith | 15:26 | I played around with adding mod_edit forms in an iframe |
| sam marshall | 15:26 | that form is monstrous, so I sincerely hope it doesn't get added in to the picker :) |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:26 | How long did it take to create? |
| Davo Smith | 15:26 | I think it might be in contrib somewhere |
| Helen Foster | 15:26 | Martin what were you referring to "that last one has been on my wishlist for a while"? |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:26 | Cool :) - testing is a *** espectially with IE |
| Mark Johnson | 15:26 | I've played with loading mforms via AJAX, it's doable but it's not pretty. I dont know if it's doable with TinyMCE |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:27 | clap, clap, clap => Andrew |
| Paul Vaughan | 15:27 | Thank you Andrew. :) |
| Mary Cooch | 15:27 | applause |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:27 | (y) |
| Helen Foster | 15:27 | really interesting, thanks a lot Andrew |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:27 | Thanks |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:27 | Thanks for listenig :) |
| Juergen Zimmer | 15:27 | thanks, interesting stuff! |
| Helen Foster | 15:28 | oh, shall I create one right away? |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:28 | hope listening does no implies understanding, lol, slides really helped. |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:28 | Yes please :) |
| David Mudrák | 15:28 | The problem with threads at moodle.org is that they become "down the screen" pretty quickly |
| David Mudrák | 15:29 | so announcing a new project there is tricky |
| Mary Evans | 15:29 | Thanks Andrew |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:29 | There was a question about moodlenews - I didn't know about Moodle News back then ;) |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:29 | Would be cool if when you clicked on a thread it jumped to the last post in the forums. |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:29 | Thanks Andrew :) |
| sam marshall | 15:29 | gareth 0 click the numbrt |
| sam marshall | 15:29 | number |
| Tim Hunt | 15:29 | If you click the number of unread posts, it takes you to first unread post |
| Helen Foster | 15:30 | there is a last post link |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:30 | Did not know that - thanks guys & girls :) |
| Helen Foster | 15:30 | Dan is super! |
| Mary Cooch | 15:31 | Superdan |
| David Mudrák | 15:31 | I remember myself having difficulties with getting feedback on workshop spec in pre-2.0 times. it took weeks to gather useful info. |
| Tim Hunt | 15:31 | The main problem with dev chat is that only a limite dnumber of peple see it. |
| Mary Evans | 15:31 | I find dev chat is really difficult to manage i always end up with old logs |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:33 | Developer only forum? |
| Tim Hunt | 15:33 | MArk, General developer forum exists. |
| David Mudrák | 15:33 | isn't that GDF? |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:34 | https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Roadmap |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:34 | More developer only though, less posts. Devs asking devs stuff... |
| sam marshall | 15:34 | GDF is mainly used by non developers imo :) |
| Tim Hunt | 15:34 | Shoudl sam H talk about htis? |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:35 | I think I'm lined up to speak briefly about things |
| Tim Hunt | 15:35 | http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-25290 |
| Mark Johnson | 15:35 | +1 on what sam said, GDF has a lot of questions from non-devs who ask there becuase it's active with lots of knowledgeable people |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:35 | Yeah, that's what I'm getting at |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:36 | yup |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:36 | Get some instant send forum posts, smaller audience - easier to follow posts |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:36 | too loud |
| Adam Olley | 15:36 | its perfect |
| Adam Olley | 15:36 | everyone else was too quiet ;) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:36 | lol |
| Mike Churchward | 15:36 | What Adam said... |
| Adam Olley | 15:36 | (sorry eloy) |
| David Mudrák | 15:37 | Eloy: get a new Mac with the volume button (not that Apple-sexy but hey it works) :-p |
| Tony Levi | 15:37 | its a partly magic bullet ;-) |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:37 | https://github.com/samhemelryk/moodle/tree/wip-MDL-25290-m24-compact |
| Rex Lorenzo | 15:37 | what is the ideal server setup to take advantage of the MUC? |
| Tim Hunt | 15:38 | I guess it is a bullet, but you ahve to aim it yourself ;-) |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:38 | 3 kinds of caching ... |
| Helen Foster | 15:41 | static, session and ? |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:41 | you need to click publish |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:41 | application |
| Martin Dougiamas | 15:41 | shared |
| Andrew Nicols | 15:41 | nope |
| sam marshall | 15:41 | no? |
| Mark Johnson | 15:41 | no :( |
| Mary Cooch | 15:41 | no |
| Tim Barker | 15:41 | no |
| Rajesh Taneja | 15:41 | no |
| Mary Evans | 15:41 | no |
| Helen Foster | 15:42 | application caching? |
| Helen Foster | 15:42 | thanks |
| Mary Evans | 15:43 | does Martin need to closed his screen? |
| sam marshall | 15:44 | Is there an example definition file? Maybe stick it on pastebin or something? |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:45 | https://github.com/samhemelryk/moodle/blob/wip-MDL-25290-m24-MUC/lib/db/caches.php |
| sam marshall | 15:45 | interested but no time :( It sounds good though, & I know Tim looked at it. |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:45 | Tim === legend (thanks once more Tim) |
| sam marshall | 15:46 | thanks for definition list, looking now :) |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:46 | Sam, when reviewing I thought that the idea of definitions were confusing. Would it make more sense that when I want to create my own cache, that I would extend some base class and then use my class for my cache? |
| Tim Hunt | 15:47 | Subclassing is a bad way to configure anything. |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:47 | I'd declare all core impls as final to prevent custom extension |
| sam marshall | 15:47 | I had a question about multi-server systems. Is thre a way to indicate in definition or whatever that a certain cache can be stored locally on each front-end server & doesn't need to be invalidated |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:47 | It's not really a confugration IMO |
| Justin Filip | 15:48 | Sorry if this is in the Wiki but is the cached data being stored in DB or on the filesystem? |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:48 | Sam, how should I reach you |
| Tim Hunt | 15:49 | It is probably a 'local hard disc' cache back-end type. |
| Tim Hunt | 15:49 | No reason it cannot be added later, sam, I think. |
| Tim Hunt | 15:49 | That is sam m |
| Justin Filip | 15:49 | =) Got it. Cool, thanks. |
| sam marshall | 15:49 | thinking of junk like the config cache, strings, would be nice to reduce net requests is all. |
| Tony Levi | 15:49 | I did that, so xcache could be used between servers, it works nicely for lang cache |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:50 | sam.hemelryk@gmail.com |
| Kris Stokking | 15:50 | Does this assume that there's a single cache backend being used for Application, Session, etc. caching? |
| Tim Hunt | 15:51 | Kris, each cache can use a different back-end |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 15:51 | sure xcache can be used. no single, multiple allowed, each cache definition is associated with a chache instance (servers, configuration @ admin afaik) |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:51 | Nope sorry |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:51 | Kris: You can have several application back ends, there will be one used by default and you can map them for use etc |
| Kris Stokking | 15:52 | Right, but if I wanted to store certain session data on disk and other data in memcache, would an admin have the ability to configure that? |
| Tony Levi | 15:52 | I'm not sure the coherency problem has been dealt with yet |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:52 | You mean you can configure each definition to use a specific backend (potentially)? |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:52 | Mark: Thanks for look at it btw, please do post on MDL-25290, certainly I'd like to hear more about what your thoughts were and perhaps look at how we can address issues like the definition confusion |
| Justin Filip | 15:52 | SVG? =) |
| Rex Lorenzo | 15:52 | Retinal display |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:52 | Sure thing Sam, I'll be able to elaborate some more |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:53 | Year, each definition can make use of 1or more backends (they can be stacked to provide redundancy) |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:53 | Great thanks Mark |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:53 | Kris, yes that is the idea, providing the cache has a definition you can map it to any suitable backend |
| sam marshall | 15:54 | agree, wait for me to make it work in 2.3 :) |
| sam marshall | 15:54 | then look at it again, i hope |
| Mark Johnson | 15:54 | Yay ical! |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:55 | Tony we had best have a chat about the coherency concerns, certainly the more complete we can make this the better |
| Gavin Henrick | 15:55 | not all of europe :) |
| Tony Levi | 15:55 | yeah, I need to actually set up the existing code and poke it with a stick first |
| Sam Hemelryk | 15:56 | Hehe great, please do, I'll be keen to hear how it goes |
| Tim Hunt | 15:56 | I have a small, but scary, proposed change for 2.4 that I would like to talk about. |
| David Mudrák | 15:56 | sorry, no mic here |
| David Mudrák | 15:58 | talking about plugins, there is this Plugins -> AMOS integration langing soon. Watch MDLSITE-1836 for progress |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:58 | Updating plugins with the ability to 'undo' a version would be good :) |
| Anthony Borrow | 15:58 | what are the plans on getting stats on plugins for registered sites? |
| David Mudrák | 15:58 | Undo is tricky because of backups. And making full backup is tricky via PHP |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:58 | Yes :) |
| Tim Hunt | 15:59 | Why not use themes for that? |
| Gareth J Barnard | 15:59 | That would be cool as discussion on http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-35048 |
| Mark Nielsen | 15:59 | Course formats currently cannot select the layout, themes can still theme the layout, etc |
| Rex Lorenzo | 16:00 | ticket for the course format changes? |
| Itamar Tzadok | 16:01 | I have suggested to automate creation of issue tracker and Moodle docs page upon approval of a new contributed plugin. |
| Justin Filip | 16:03 | Yeah, for any of those other projects in progress, can that page be updated with tracker / wiki links (where applicable)? |
| Rajesh Taneja | 16:03 | FYI: http://moodle.org/plugins/view.php?plugin=repository_mediacapture |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:03 | I think that course formats should stick with layouts and reference 'base class' type themeing in core that themes could then 'inherit' from. |
| Rex Lorenzo | 16:03 | What did you mention about the Collection module? |
| sam marshall | 16:04 | feedback: if this is a survey/feedback/questionnaire module, Collection is not a very obvious name :) |
| sam marshall | 16:04 | ah, cool |
| Tim Hunt | 16:04 | Please may I talk about my user-searching feature? |
| Tim Hunt | 16:05 | Well, it is a 2.4 thing |
| Tim Hunt | 16:05 | Hopefully |
| Tim Hunt | 16:05 | I could edit the roadmap wiki page to add it there, thenit woudl fit onw on the agenda! |
| Mary Cooch | 16:05 | :) |
| Mary Evans | 16:05 | ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO ADD SOME NEAW THEME INTO 2.4 OR 2.5 |
| Andrew Nicols | 16:06 | Did you guys ever move to Postgres? |
| Justin Filip | 16:06 | Is there an easy way for us to find issues in the tracker that have API changes? We've been getting bitten by changes to core APIs, removal of methods/functions, new APIs. |
| Tim Hunt | 16:06 | Justin, there is now an API cahnge label./ |
| Rex Lorenzo | 16:06 | release notes have a good collection of changes |
| Helen Foster | 16:06 | justin, there is a api changes label |
| Tim Hunt | 16:06 | Also, in the code, look for upgrade.txt files. |
| Justin Filip | 16:06 | Excellent, thanks. |
| Tim Hunt | 16:06 | Like question/type/upgrade.txt |
| Helen Foster | 16:07 | https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Tracker_issue_labels |
| Tim Hunt | 16:07 | For chagnes to the question type API |
| Justin Filip | 16:07 | Are those upgrade.txt files written before a release or is that part of the release process? |
| David Mudrák | 16:07 | before |
| Tim Hunt | 16:07 | Justin, then should be writted whene the development is done. |
| Justin Filip | 16:07 | Perfect |
| Tim Hunt | 16:08 | If you make a comit changing an API, it shoudl get rejected in integration review if you have nto updated the upgrade.txt file at the same time. |
| Kris Stokking | 16:08 | I assumed you were a bit busy, but thanks! :) |
| Mark Johnson | 16:09 | yes |
| Andrew Nicols | 16:09 | yup |
| Mark Nielsen | 16:09 | yes |
| Tony Levi | 16:09 | yep |
| Paul Vaughan | 16:09 | Yep. |
| Martin Dougiamas | 16:09 | yes, though you sound english |
| Tony Levi | 16:09 | love it. |
| Mary Evans | 16:09 | :) |
| Tim Hunt | 16:09 | http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-34657 |
| Tim Hunt | 16:10 | https://github.com/timhunt/moodle/compare/master...MDL-34657#L16R175 |
| Andrew Nicols | 16:11 | Thanks Tim - seems like a great idea |
| Paul Vaughan | 16:11 | exact / fuzzy option - good idea |
| Helen Foster | 16:12 | I didn't find it applying to moodle.org but will look again |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:12 | Chuffin Nora - a big change Tim! |
| Mark Nielsen | 16:12 | Anyone still interesting in that developer only forum? |
| Tony Levi | 16:13 | waho |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 16:13 | Please announce CVS EOL for 2.x (<=2.5 ok, <= 2.4 perfect) |
| Tony Levi | 16:13 | that sorting code is scary |
| Tim Hunt | 16:13 | I personally think that is a bad idea. Developers need tot alk to users more, not less. |
| Tony Levi | 16:13 | i.e slow |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:13 | I'm looking forward to the course format changes - please keep up the good work guys :) |
| Helen Foster | 16:13 | Mark, do you mean moderate the gen dev forum more? |
| Mark Nielsen | 16:13 | No, it's basically dev chat but a forum |
| Tim Hunt | 16:13 | Re API change lablel. See, for example, http://tracker.moodle.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=labels+%3D+api_change |
| Sam Hemelryk | 16:13 | kill it |
| Mary Evans | 16:13 | I wonder if ther is a need to drop some old themes |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 16:13 | idiot question, can the same application caches be shared between multiple sites? Can be really useful for partPlease announce CVS EOL for 2.x (<=2.5 ok, <=2.4 perfect) |
| Sam Hemelryk | 16:13 | kill it now |
| Andrew Nicols | 16:14 | Please kill it? |
| Justin Filip | 16:14 | *single tear* |
| Darko Miletić | 16:14 | A bit late to the call |
| Iñaki Arenaza | 16:14 | Yep, I'm collecting CVS stats on our server |
| Anthony Borrow | 16:14 | lang 1.9 still uses cvs |
| Mary Evans | 16:14 | we could do with the ability to add images into theme via settings page |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 16:14 | I'm interested only on core. feel free to keep langs/contrib |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:14 | Odd question, why Git and not Mercurial? |
| David Mudrák | 16:15 | sorry? |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 16:15 | lol, gar |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:15 | Ok ;) |
| Itamar Tzadok | 16:15 | Contributed plugins: tie newly approved to docs page and issue tracker automatically |
| Iñaki Arenaza | 16:15 | Gareth It's all Martin Langhoff's fault!!!! |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:15 | ROFL |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:15 | I've grown to love Git, now use it in other projects too :) |
| Martin Vögeli | 16:16 | tim & mary: can we have a chat about MDL-31365 after the main chat? |
| Sam Hemelryk | 16:16 | Mary had a feature request for admin settings being able to deal with files |
| Mary Evans | 16:16 | yes |
| Mark Nielsen | 16:16 | File upload? Yes, we would like that as well! |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:16 | Plus thumbs up for Mary Coochs' Git help :) |
| Sam Hemelryk | 16:16 | Everyone would love that I think |
| Martin Vögeli | 16:16 | cool :) |
| Martin Vögeli | 16:17 | tim? it won't take long... |
| Andrew Nicols | 16:17 | Thanks all - and thanks to HQ for staying up til stupidly late :) |
| Gavin Henrick | 16:17 | thanks |
| Tim Hunt | 16:17 | Thank you |
| Gareth J Barnard | 16:17 | Thanks :) |
| Mike Churchward | 16:17 | Bye everyone. |
| Mary Evans | 16:17 | Thank YOU! |
| Paul Vaughan | 16:17 | Ta all. |
| Mary Cooch | 16:17 | thanks |
| Iñaki Arenaza | 16:17 | Thanks |
| Mark Nielsen | 16:17 | thanks |
| Kris Stokking | 16:17 | Thanks everyone |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 16:17 | (finger) |
| Justin Filip | 16:17 | Thanks |
| Itamar Tzadok | 16:17 | Thanks |
| Mark Johnson | 16:17 | Thanks, bye! |
| Paul Vaughan | 16:17 | Nite! |
| Sam Hemelryk | 16:17 | Morning everyone |
| Rajesh Taneja | 16:18 | ciao |
| Andrew Nicols | 16:18 | Yup :) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | 16:18 | ciao :-) |
| Tim Hunt | 16:18 | Anyone who cares about black-board question import, you owe Jean-Michel Vedrine |
| Rossiani Wijaya | 16:18 | byee |
| Tim Barker | 16:18 | night |
