Developer meeting November 2012
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| Time | 01:00 UTC on Tuesday, 20 November 2012 |
| Meeting room | Moodle Dev Meeting Course |
In this meeting we focused on the impending release of 2.4.
Attendees
Dan Marsden, Eloy Lafuente, Justin Filip, Mary Evans, Petr Škoda, Rex Lorenzo, Sam Hemelryk, Tim Hunt, Ahmad Aizuddin Aizat Bin Tajul Arif, Jonathan Doane, David Mudrak, Gavin Henrick, Helen Foster, Mark Nelson, Paul Vaughan, Rossiani Wijaya, Simon Coggins, Tim Hunt, Anne Krigger, Matt Oquist, Paul Nicholls, Michael de Raadt, Marina Glancy, Martin Dougiamas, Dan Poltawski, Barbara Ramiro, David Monllaó, Andrew Davis, Damyon Wiese, Ankit Agarwal, Rajesh Taneja, Jérôme Mouneyrac, Jason Fowlser, Adrian Greeve, Aparup Banerjee.
Moodle 2.4 release
- Minimum requirements were discussed. IE8 was raised and we are likely to drop support for IE8 in 2.5.
- We could possibly increase the PHP version to 5.3.8
Performance improvements
- MUC work completed by Sam Hemelryk
- New API for caching.
- Consistent shared caching system to provide consistency and add performance.
- Now ready for use.
- Many areas to be worked on after 2.4.
- Daily statistics process has been improved - thanks to Partners involved
- Looking to measure improvement and show graphs
- Client-side JavaScript improvements have been made, mostly successful so far
Plugin updating within Moodle
- Automatic deployment started in 2.3 with available updates. It was just reading for available updates.
- In 2.4 it will inform admins and allow them to get and install latest version.
- UML chart shows functionality
- Can be disabled through the config.php and UI
- Working towards installing new plugins from within Moodle
Course format plugins
- Big refactor done by Marina to make course formats a real plugin API
- Not much change in core Moodle functionality
- Course formats can now insert header and footer
- Course formats can be enabled/disabled and have their own settings
- You can now achieve redirection before output
- Sections can have subsections (sections inside sections), if a format defines this
- No new course formats in core yet. Hopefully the community will create some good ones.
- Works when you switch formats or when restoring a course when the previous format is no longer available.
- Note: Custom themes must be updated for 2.4 because of this change
Themes
- Icons have been updated
- Support for SVG has been added to previous functionality
- If you have older PNG or GIF images they will still work
- Best output at 24x24 SVG
- Still need raster icons for some browsers that don't support SVG
- Block icons have been normalised at 16x16 in monochrome
- Setting icons have been normalised at 12x12 in monochrome
- There are new guidelines for creating new icons including standard colours to match standard icons
- We are now using the HTML5 doctype
- IE8 is now forced to use standards mode
- Simple YUI is now available for use
- Similar to JQuery for simple actions
TinyMCE improvements
- An editor sub-plugins API has been added
- You can alter toolbar and settings for plugins
Enrolments
- Reworked restore support for enrolments
- User enrolments revert to other enrolment method when an enrolment method is uninstalled
Integration of Calendars
- Can now subscribe to iCal feeds
- This was a most wanted improvement
- Some bugs being sorted out before release
Unicode filenames in zips
- Filenames with unicode characters are now possible
Assignment enhancements
- Individual extensions
- Group assignments
- Choose group mode and you can limit to a grouping
- One or all students can be asked to submit
- Markers can grade all students in a group at once
- Blind marking
- Shows student as an anonymous user during marking
- Off-line marking
- You can get a CVS, enter grades then upload
- You can download a zip with submissions, mark and add feedback files, then zip and upload the feedback
Other improvements
- Blocks need to have new capabilities added.
QA Testing
- QA is about half-way through.
- Hopefully much of the QA tests will be able to be automated in future
Mobile app
- Will handle notifications in iPhone apps
- Will hopefully be available around Christmas
- Will use Apache 2 license so people can release their own versions without sharing code
Hacktoberfest
- Some specs have already been started
- Will set direction for 2.5
- Logging/Reporting/Outcomes
- File-cloud storage
Hack-a-thon
- Ideas needed for
- incentives (t-shirts, money, recognition on moodle.org)
- areas of work that people could be involved in
- how to keep people involved after the Hack-a-thon
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Meeting chat log
| Sam Hemelryk | Hi |
| Justin Filip | Is there any way to configure my audio settings in this thing? I'm not hearing anything... =( |
| Dan Marsden | Justin top left there's a headphone icon |
| Mary Evans | *wave |
| Dan Marsden | click it and "join audio" |
| Michael de Raadt | Hi |
| Justin Filip | Thanks |
| Sam Hemelryk | Yip... .slowwwwwly... |
| Dan Marsden | we see your BBB session |
| Dan Marsden | weird |
| Dan Marsden | HQ audio sounds a bit like a toilet.... |
| Justin Filip | TRUE |
| Justin Filip | A loud toilet |
| Mary Evans | I cant hear anything |
| Dan Marsden | Mary - headphone icon in top left |
| Dan Marsden | click it and join audio |
| Michael de Raadt | Also, you can right click and edit the Flash settings to enable your audio. |
| Tim Hunt | Hello world |
| Dan Marsden | using Join audio is better isn't it? - shows wizard/test window to make sure it's working |
| Mary Evans | I think i liked it better quiet lol |
| Mark Nelson | Morning. |
| Tim Hunt | I am not sure what the point of having separate Users and Listeners lists is? |
| Dan Marsden | yeah - they do different things but it would make sense (to me) for them to be merged |
| David Mudrák | Hello |
| Dan Marsden | Michael - might be a good idea to mute all.. |
| Mark Nelson | I see a bunch of speaker icons next to a few peoples names but can't hear anything .. do I need to be in the listeners group? |
| Dan Marsden | exceot yourself.... |
| Dan Marsden | heh |
| Justin Filip | ... |
| Justin Filip | Yes |
| Dan Marsden | yeah - Petr's sound is much better than HQ |
| David Mudrák | Can we make an audio test? |
| Tim Hunt | To do an audio test, click the headphones icon in the top left. |
| Tim Hunt | That is also how you join the audio |
| Justin Filip | It's very bangy and echoy in Perth today |
| Dan Marsden | maybe having your legs on the table with the mic isn't a good idea? |
| Sam Hemelryk | Year Perth, your audio is so sub par |
| Gavin Henrick | Yes. |
| Sam Hemelryk | Yes that seems better |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | is palm-up like 5 (finger) together? |
| Justin Filip | Which fingers? |
| Gavin Henrick | Been testing BBB with Moodle over LTI (the upcoming version) was nice |
| David Mudrák | How can I test my mic? |
| Justin Filip | . . . a group of faces all looking upwards, expectantly. |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | just guessing what are those guys watching... |
| Tim Hunt | Probalby the screen projected on the wall. |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | moodlepass yet? lol. |
| Justin Filip | I think they're watching YouTube videos of cats |
| David Mudrák | Audio chopping here |
| Ahmad Aizuddin Aizat Bin Tajul Arif | :D |
| David Mudrák | And I do not know how to know if the mic is working |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | Once upon a time... |
| Justin Filip | David, there's an audio test when you click on the headphones icon in the upper left corner |
| Tim Hunt | You muted everyone! |
| David Mudrák | Justin: yes, I know. And the bar moved for me. |
| Rex Lorenzo | We can unmute ourselves |
| Mark Nelson | I am from Perth. |
| Dan Marsden | Tim - the listeners box has an mute button to unmute yourself |
| Gavin Henrick | < in Ireland |
| Tim Hunt | Yes, I know that. |
| Paul Vaughan | Morning all, Paul Vaughan, a Moodle developer / admin for a FE college in south England :) |
| Paul Vaughan | And boy is it cold here :/ |
| Tim Hunt | Hi from Tim, in Milton keynes. |
| Jonathan Doane | I'm in New Hampshire in the United States. |
| Paul Nicholls | Christchurch, New Zealand here (University of Canterbury) |
| Rex Lorenzo | Los Angeles, US |
| Matt Oquist | I work with Jonathan, also in New Hampshire, U.S. |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | Eloy, from Mars. |
| Rossiani Wijaya | I'm in Perth |
| Justin Filip | Tuning in from dreary Kitchener, ON Canada. |
| Sam Hemelryk | Nelson, NZ |
| Dan Marsden | Christchurch, NZ |
| Simon Coggins | I'm in Wellington, NZ |
| David Mudrák | David Mu, from Czech |
| Ahmad Aizuddin Aizat Bin Tajul Arif | I'm a Moodle developer / admin for a University in Malaysia |
| Helen Foster | Helen from near Brussels, Belgium |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | I'm watcing dark-anne |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | *watching |
| Petr Škoda | Petr Skoda (HQ dev) from CZ |
| Anne Krijger | It is dark here :) |
| Anne Krijger | From .nl btw The hague |
| Justin Filip | I just heard Gavin sigh... this meeting is really starting to kick off! |
| Paul Vaughan | it was a very Irish sigh? ;) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | wow, that's quick! |
| Matt Oquist | yes, this is quite lovely timing. :) |
| Tim Hunt | Is there a policy for meeting times? To be really fair, it would advance 7 hours each time, so that eventually we cover all time-zones. |
| Dan Marsden | LTS? |
| Simon Coggins | I could give a quick open badges update if there's interest |
| Tim Hunt | Three times, that are all quite nice for Perth, coincidentally. |
| Justin Filip | We could get some more love for Barbara's new icons in 2.4. =) |
| Paul Vaughan | LOVING the new icons! |
| Tim Hunt | Would be nice to get feedback on https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Database_collation_issue |
| Tim Hunt | Particuarly anyone who can say how much of a problem the thrid issue is. |
| Tim Hunt | Perforamnce wins are not sexy, but will make people very happy |
| Tim Hunt | http://www.iteachwithmoodle.com/2012/11/17/moodle-2-4-beta-performance-test-comparison-with-moodle-2-3/ |
| Helen Foster | no |
| Gavin Henrick | yes we can hear |
| Tim Hunt | It got very quited |
| Gavin Henrick | but it gets quiet when ye talk among yourselves |
| David Mudrák | Chopping here, can't understand :-( |
| Damyon Wiese | we now force standards compliance mode on ie9 |
| Tim Hunt | Bcrypt. Great idea! |
| Tim Hunt | Submit it for integration! |
| Simon Coggins | http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-35332 |
| Simon Coggins | Requires 5.3.8 |
| Justin Filip | Sounds good |
| Rossiani Wijaya | yes sam |
| Rex Lorenzo | What are the core areas that are currently integrated? |
| David Mudrák | Can everybody but the actual speaker mute themselves please. It seems to help a bit. Thanks. |
| Tim Hunt | Implementing question caching was really easy. |
| Tim Hunt | It is a nice API. |
| Helen Foster | Sam, did you say thanks to Matteo? |
| Dan Marsden | I had a chat with Matteo - he's really been enjoying the MUC stuff |
| Sam Hemelryk | Year Matteo === legend! |
| Helen Foster | I met Matteo in Italy - great guy! |
| Dan Poltawski | https://github.com/moodle/moodle/blob/master/cache/README.md |
| Dan Marsden | he was excited about being added to the dev group in jira |
| Sam Hemelryk | That would be pretty awesome to get some things into 2.4 |
| Tim Hunt | Yes. Adding a cache has no UI-visible change, or functionality changes |
| Tim Hunt | So, could go in to stable |
| Tim Hunt | What about all the JS performance improvements? |
| Tim Hunt | Thanks to Andrew Nichols. |
| Tim Hunt | Many of those are waiting ofr integration too,. |
| Tim Hunt | What did I do? |
| Sam Hemelryk | Read the blurb down the bottom |
| Tim Hunt | Oh, I posted that link |
| Gavin Henrick | does the MUC handle web services caching or just UI ? |
| Paul Nicholls | Would be good to have some client-side comparisons too, i.e. generated page size and UI initialisation time |
| Dan Poltawski | well, its more backend than UI to I would say |
| Gavin Henrick | ok |
| Damyon Wiese | very much |
| Dan Poltawski | great |
| Justin Filip | Sounds better |
| David Mudrák | https://docs.moodle.org/dev/images_dev/f/f7/plugins-intergration-23.png |
| David Mudrák | https://docs.moodle.org/dev/images_dev/6/6e/plugins-intergration-24.png |
| Dan Poltawski | https://github.com/moodle/moodle/blob/master/mdeploy.php |
| David Mudrák | https://docs.moodle.org/dev/images_dev/1/15/plugins-intergration-25.png |
| Justin Filip | Can this be disabled, maybe via a config file option? |
| David Mudrák | sure |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | y |
| Justin Filip | Excellent. |
| Gavin Henrick | does this have warnings about leaving the server files open to writing? |
| Martin Dougiamas | complete kill switch (for partners ;) ) |
| Justin Filip | Yeah.. =) |
| Gavin Henrick | and is it restricted to only the primary admin, rather than all admins ? |
| Gavin Henrick | since some places have 10+ admins |
| Dan Poltawski | sort out their admins! |
| Paul Vaughan | Good Q Gavin. CAN it be restricted? |
| Dan Poltawski | the admin is god |
| Dan Poltawski | you can't disable it by capability |
| Gavin Henrick | So perhaps the warning should be that secondary admins should by default not have that capability |
| Petr Škoda | capability === all admins + some more |
| Dan Poltawski | they should be *managers* |
| Paul Vaughan | Agree w/ Gavin wholeheartedly. |
| Dan Poltawski | I know people use admin accounts |
| Gavin Henrick | not when they are sub-admins, thats how they roll :) most sites have lots, even in HE |
| Paul Vaughan | All admins are equal, but some admins are more equal than others... |
| Petr Škoda | admins ahve all capability, no way to restrict that, sorry |
| Dan Poltawski | but if we prevent it, then they lcok themslves out |
| Rex Lorenzo | We restrict some config options in the modle config.php file.. so even site admins cannot change some settings without also having access to the file system |
| Gavin Henrick | cant tell someone using Moodle for 7 years to stop having 20 admins :) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | do you have also 20 roots on your servers? |
| Gavin Henrick | maybe have the userid specified in config.php as to whom can use it ?? |
| Petr Škoda | in 2.4 finally primary admin is properly defined |
| Tim Hunt | Admin should be like root on linux boxes. |
| Gavin Henrick | Eloy, not my clients, just most Moodles who were running without guidance, they rolled with lots of admins |
| Tim Hunt | Don't use it, except very exceptionally. |
| Simon Coggins | could you use has_capability with the $doanything argument set to false? wouldn't that prevent admins using it (unless they have the capability) |
| Tim Hunt | For day-to-day use, us Manager. |
| Dan Poltawski | Just disable auto updates in config.php if you don't trust your admins |
| Paul Vaughan | I would really like to ensure that some of my other Moodle admins can't do this. id's specified in config.php would be just fine. |
| Gavin Henrick | Tim - I recommend that, just understanding the reality too :) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | yeah, but that's simply "cosmetic" |
| Gavin Henrick | Primary admin cant be edited by others? isnt that the case? |
| Tim Hunt | Primary admin is mainly signfiicant for email from. |
| Tim Hunt | Is now the right time to discuss this in detail? |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | trust your admins or ban them. You decide. |
| Tim Hunt | +1 |
| Dan Poltawski | https://github.com/moodle/moodle/blob/master/course/format/upgrade.txt |
| Petr Škoda | is the desktop sharing choppy/pixelated for others too? |
| Justin Filip | Yeah |
| Paul Nicholls | yep |
| Matt Oquist | definitely |
| Rossiani Wijaya | yes |
| Rex Lorenzo | What's the UI like for specifying subsections? |
| Tim Hunt | scoll slower! |
| Aparup Banerjee | is there an mbz of that courseformat demo somewhere? |
| Petr Škoda | do not scroll at all |
| Dan Poltawski | https://github.com/marinaglancy/moodle-format_flexsections |
| Anne Krijger | it takes about 15s for a page to load fully |
| Dan Poltawski | Apu: you need the course format plugin |
| Dan Poltawski | ITS NOT in core |
| Rex Lorenzo | Is there a format that supports subsectons on the QA site? |
| Dan Poltawski | Rex: no |
| Dan Poltawski | its not in core. |
| Rex Lorenzo | So there is api support, but nothing in core uses it..okay |
| Gavin Henrick | Sounds great |
| Gavin Henrick | Turn a moodle course into captivate :) |
| Rex Lorenzo | So backup/restore works with format settings? |
| Dan Poltawski | But your course is not tied to the course format |
| Gavin Henrick | sounds great being able tos wap between them. |
| Gavin Henrick | now that would be sexy |
| Petr Škoda | you mean capabilities, not roles, right? |
| Dan Marsden | is there a way to revert to old - like vista users wanting XP layout? :-) |
| Dan Poltawski | get out! |
| Dan Marsden | :-p |
| Gavin Henrick | a retro look ;-) |
| Dan Poltawski | http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2010/09/03/coming-inyui-3-2-0-simpleyui/ |
| Tim Hunt | Audio gone for me |
| Dan Poltawski | can still hear here |
| Justin Filip | So, for doing things like TreeView, we would still want to create a YUI module? |
| Dan Poltawski | and jquery lovers :P |
| Martin Dougiamas | We really should get some maths tools in core |
| Aparup Banerjee | tinymce real plugins are reflected in plugins DB under https://moodle.org/plugins/browse.php?list=category&id=23 |
| Dan Poltawski | we have dragmath, no? |
| Damyon Wiese | vim plugin for tinymce ! |
| Gavin Henrick | cool |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | you exlained it soooo well |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | *explained |
| Dan Poltawski | yep |
| Gavin Henrick | Can the spellchecker be off by default so browser is used unless chosen ? |
| Martin Dougiamas | great, go on |
| Dan Poltawski | https://docs.moodle.org/23/en/DragMath_equation_editor |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | are all those "concepts" clear enough? I mean suspended... what they mean and their implicatons? |
| Tim Hunt | It is bloody confusing! |
| Helen Foster | I don't understand it |
| Dan Poltawski | Gavin: I don't think so, but please file a feature request :P |
| Gavin Henrick | It is getting complex |
| Gavin Henrick | Is there any way to differentiate between 2 peoples text on the online text submission ? |
| Gavin Henrick | Is there a "group view" rather than the individuals ? |
| Aparup Banerjee | maybe with a tinymce plugin? |
| Dan Poltawski | I use markdown for my asignment submissions! |
| Gavin Henrick | Also - have you decided on that "dropdown" position ? |
| Gavin Henrick | as it does seem confusing in the "file" block |
| Gavin Henrick | Can you show it now ? |
| Tim Hunt | I'm sure flash audio normally works better than this. |
| Tim Hunt | Grrr! |
| Dan Poltawski | whats it doing tim, breaking up? |
| Gavin Henrick | could it be under the grade ? |
| Gavin Henrick | so people dont miss it |
| Dan Poltawski | we might be talking too quietly |
| Paul Nicholls | It might be clearer if it was outside the "Feedback Comments" group |
| Tim Hunt | No, it jsut goes away completely |
| Tim Hunt | I ahve to reastart my browser. |
| Gavin Henrick | audio has been solid for me here |
| Gavin Henrick | no issues |
| Paul Nicholls | i.e. group it directly with the save buttons, rather than with the feedback |
| Gavin Henrick | Have you applied the fix for the log issue on blind marking ? so the teacher cannot see logs or activity action until after the names are reveal ? |
| Aparup Banerjee | blind marking also means they're hidden in gradebook and elsewheres iirc |
| Gavin Henrick | so right now its not blind :) teacher can see exactly who it is |
| Gavin Henrick | teacher grading MUST be blind, it is very much a requirement in most europe where blind is done |
| Tim Hunt | if you care about anonymity that much, make a special marker role, with access to grade, but not to logs. |
| Tim Hunt | It is alos important to log what really happeend. |
| Tim Hunt | In case you need to investigate what happened |
| Anne Krijger | I just finished a hack where students nickname and avatar are shown instead of actual name and picture |
| Dan Poltawski | spec thats been as a spec for years: https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Anonymous_Users |
| Anne Krijger | No ! :) |
| Anne Krijger | It's a HACK |
| Anne Krijger | Just wantedf to say that there are situations where anonimity is needed |
| Gavin Henrick | yes, there is (like anon questionnaires - for course feedback) |
| Justin Filip | Anonymous forums with teachers or admins able to see who the users are if needed... |
| Paul Nicholls | Is it worth adding the JS performance improvements to the release notes? |
| Dan Poltawski | https://github.com/moodle/moodle/blob/master/theme/upgrade.txt |
| Dan Poltawski | Paul: i'd say no until we have definitive confirmation its fixed the major problems |
| Dan Poltawski | Adam seemed to be suggesting it wasn't |
| Tim Hunt | like mod/xxx:addinstance in 2.3 |
| Tim Hunt | There is now block/xxx:addinstnace in 2.4 |
| Tim Hunt | And another one for hte my moodle page, if applicalble |
| Mark Nelson | and a myaddinstance capability |
| Gavin Henrick | Possible to ask a question about Moodle Mobile? |
| Tim Hunt | http://tracker.moodle.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=11454 |
| Tim Hunt | http://tracker.moodle.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=11454#Created-vs-Resolved-Chart/14688 |
| Dan Poltawski | hurruy up and do it so we have time to fix the bugs! |
| Dan Poltawski | :-P |
| Paul Nicholls | The pie chart in the top right corner of the dashboard shows failures in green, which seems a little backwards ;-) |
| Tim Hunt | Humans have common sense. Automated tests don't |
| Gavin Henrick | would be great to have the lot automated! |
| Tim Hunt | Yay! |
| Tim Hunt | It was great |
| Justin Filip | It was a fantastic and productive week. |
| Gavin Henrick | That loggin spec.... |
| Gavin Henrick | got a query on it |
| Tim Hunt | Part of that should be coverting more of the code to use renderers |
| Gavin Henrick | For mobile app (taking iOS at the moment) as it uses the web services - is there a plan to add normal mdl logging to the webservices - what i mean is: instead of a mdl_log record showing "Mary Lynch webservice moodle_zend_xmlrpc_server xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" to show "Mary Lynch page view The_name_of_the_page" ? |
| Gavin Henrick | as it does not show in teacher reports |
| Gavin Henrick | or completion tracking |
| Justin Filip | Well, if you have a logging plugin that is crazy fast, it can opt in to logging everything. |
| Gavin Henrick | good, |
| Gavin Henrick | just now if a student looks a file on the mobile app , teacher never knows (and cant track it) |
| Justin Filip | The default plugin (mdl_log) would still log roughly the same amount of data as it currently does because the DB table is slow and bloated. |
| Gavin Henrick | cool :) |
| Tim Hunt | I think tha the syncing it back bit is where it will all go horribly wrong. |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | y |
| Tim Hunt | Bloddy audio gone again. :-( Back soon. |
| Gavin Henrick | why the change? |
| Gavin Henrick | good point. |
| Dan Poltawski | I've seen some horror stories about the GPL in the app store too |
| Dan Poltawski | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement |
| Petr Škoda | why am I always excluded from these? |
| Tim Hunt | If hyou want to encorage developers, deal with the peer review backlog! |
| Martin Dougiamas | every day is a hackathon for you Petr |
| Petr Škoda | grrrr |
| Dan Poltawski | a christmas with relatives |
| Rex Lorenzo | How long does this last? |
| Gavin Henrick | a "group badge" in Moodle.org for 6 months... |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | Can boys under 5y participate? |
| Gavin Henrick | free entry to a moot ? :) |
| Helen Foster | t-shirts |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | yes, new t-shits, plz! |
| Tim Hunt | http://tracker.moodle.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=13051 |
| Gavin Henrick | (from past experience tshirts are tough, managing multiple sizes, styles etc) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | XXXXXL, plz |
| Rex Lorenzo | Will there be a dashboard to track progress of competitors? lol |
| Sam Hemelryk | Raspberry PI's !!!!!! |
| Gavin Henrick | iphone 5? :) |
| Aparup Banerjee | prize = moodle feature consideration? |
| Tim Hunt | A unique t-shirt is more special than loot |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | Renew http://www.cafepress.es/moodle with something prettier. |
| Rex Lorenzo | oh.. levels |
| Helen Foster | not many people were involved in the last bugathon suggesting prizes were not that much of an incentive |
| Anne Krijger | Tshirts for all, bronze silver and gold for contributers |
| Anne Krijger | But start with making sure peeople know there is a Hackathon |
| Gavin Henrick | when gamifying a process, prizes do tend to undermine intrinsic motivation |
| Tim Hunt | Yes. |
| Paul Vaughan | Well it'll be winter here so not much else to do in the evenings except hack out code. :) |
| Tim Hunt | Good point Gavin |
| Gavin Henrick | so it is better to look at reinforcing the rewards they currently get |
| Justin Filip | There was some discussion in Perth about getting partners involed in Peer Reviews... any thoughts on that front? |
| Dan Poltawski | do it! |
| Tim Hunt | Prizes are valuable in that they show you are seirous when you say "that was a vaulable contribution" |
| Gavin Henrick | ie, things like group badges in forums, and so forth(just one example) |
| Rex Lorenzo | Peer review dashboard: http://tracker.moodle.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=13051 |
| Dan Marsden | just point them at the peer review dashboard? |
| Tim Hunt | Anyone can do the peer review, and add a comment |
| Tim Hunt | That ist he key bit of the rpocess |
| Dan Marsden | the dev can do that though? |
| Dan Marsden | (assignee I mean) |
| Tim Hunt | As for how to do it: "We learn a lot by just observing the activity of our peers" |
| Tim Hunt | Follow what is going on in the tracker. |
| Dan Marsden | I' |
| Dan Marsden | just heard my name |
| Dan Marsden | yeah |
| Dan Marsden | there's a plugin that Matt is looking at for next version of Kira |
| Dan Marsden | Jira |
| Dan Poltawski | is there a bug? |
| Aparup Banerjee | usually if there's an MDL where you should be an assignee and the person isn't in the jira-developers goup then (during integration) i ask MdR. Perhaps if yo've left a peer-reviewing comment, you can request in the commentt be a peer-reviewer |
| Dan Poltawski | someone should create it :P |
| Tim Hunt | So, can we change the policy on times |
| Helen Foster | +1 |
| Tim Hunt | so it varies more overtime. |
| Gavin Henrick | looking forward to 2.4, lots of people excited by it. |
| Simon Coggins | quickly, on open badges, spec is finalised: |
| Simon Coggins | https://github.com/totara/openbadges-docs |
| Simon Coggins | and dev has started here: |
| Tim Hunt | Sure. That woudl have been nice. |
| Simon Coggins | https://github.com/totara/openbadges |
| Anne Krijger | I'll create a post in the dev forum later on hte HACK I made with nickname and avatars for those interested |
| Paul Vaughan | +1 (Gavin) |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | http://integration.moodle.org:8080 (comming with some interesting checks, ideas, extras soon) |
| Aparup Banerjee | i guess what MdR is getting at is why there aren't more from asia |
| Anne Krijger | You never know how many more people would be there if held at a different time, untill you try |
| Tim Hunt | I think formt is fine. The best chance of a quick win is markieting it better. |
| Anne Krijger | BTW; connection got dropped about 15 times last 10 minutes. Not really stable. Maybe use Google Hangout next time? |
| Tim Hunt | I think. |
| Gavin Henrick | my connection/audio was great.. |
| Rex Lorenzo | Google hangout is limited to 10 people, right? |
| Gavin Henrick | no issues at all |
| Anne Krijger | Not sound; whole connection |
| Tim Hunt | Audio quiality is great, except the few times it cu off. |
| Dan Marsden | audio quality from HQ isn't great - but consistant for me |
| Helen Foster | cool re. open badges |
| Paul Vaughan | Audio dropped out once for me. |
| Anne Krijger | Google Hangout; You can do a youtube stream for those who only want to listned |
| Justin Filip | Robo Simon |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | (we need better email content to filter it out, right now it's unusable, at least for me, I get everything mixed) |
| Mark Nelson | Skynet lives. |
| Justin Filip | You're using Chrome... there's a Flash bug w/ Chrome and audio |
| Justin Filip | =/ |
| Simon Coggins | I'll type instead |
| Simon Coggins | :-) |
| Rex Lorenzo | Oh.. yeah, I am on Chrome and also got robo voice |
| Justin Filip | It would work fine via Firefox |
| Simon Coggins | Just wanted to let people know that we've started development |
| Simon Coggins | https://github.com/totara/openbadges |
| Simon Coggins | ^ code so far (still work in progress) |
| Simon Coggins | we are developing it as core (rather than a local plugin) |
| Simon Coggins | hope that's okay! |
| Tim Hunt | Ther is a forum thread about that. |
| Simon Coggins | cool! |
| Tim Hunt | Whetehr it should be plugins or not |
| Simon Coggins | and spec is here: |
| Simon Coggins | https://github.com/totara/openbadges-docs |
| Tim Hunt | Good night/morning |
| Matt Oquist | ciao all |
| Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) | niao |
| Helen Foster | goodnight everyone! |
| Anne Krijger | Gday |
| Paul Vaughan | Nite all. 3am - yawn! |
| Dan Poltawski | seey |
| Sam Hemelryk | Seeya all |
| Rossiani Wijaya | byeee |
| Justin Filip | Thanks! |
| Gavin Henrick | night all. |
| Justin Filip | 2.4 looks great so far |
