Talk:Adding/editing a course
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These page comments were copied from Teacher documentation when I copied/moved that contents to this article. Note to Helen, should we delete the page notes in teacher document and start fresh? Edit these?--chris collman 18:50, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
I added some graphics and learned how to float then to the left. It does not add a great deal of length to the article. They come from 1.6.1 . It occured to me that the drop downs provide the list, and the text the links. Notice the text needs to be adjusted to the reality of what is actually there :) I like some visuals to provide context and I think this makes this opening page from the teacher link on the left of just about every MoodleDoc page, more friendly. What do you think Helen and others? --chris collman 19:44, 11 August 2006 (WST)
- Hi Chris, please let's not make this page any longer! How about making it into the "jump station" we agreed upon previously? --Helen Foster 08:39, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
- What do you think of all the embedded links? I am starting to boil it down. Really like all the Adding/editing series in teacher catagory. Adding/Editing a course? As you can see I went down a rabbit hole and should come back to this Mad Tea party and forgot our agreement. :) I appreciate the comment. Still thinking.
What's the point???
I have been doing some work on this page based upon a suggestion I made (and helen agreed) in the docs forum which changes the lists to paragraphs. I feel this has made things better but the page obviously now needs a lot of work. I was wondering what the point / outcome of this page is? What does it hope to achieve? That may sound pretty obvious but it still isn't clear to me. Sure it introduces moodle features to teachers but there are so many ways to do that. Is it just an explanation of the features? Is it a human, friendly explanation of the features? Should it cover application in real life? Should there be a tutorial element to it? All of the above?
Also I was thinking that it is still a long page and will only increase in length. How about splitting it up further into smaller pages so you can navigate like a book. A bit like this site with a TOC for the pages and next links but only clearer and nicer of course :-). Darren Smith 19th March 2006
- I think we need different pages for the different purposes you mention. Yes, there should be a tutorial. Yes, there should be a comprehensive explanation of all the features. And yes, there should be a human-friendly explanation of the essentials. This last page is the one that Helen was asking for to replace the current teacher help file in Moodle. It should be distributed with Moodle. It should be a single page, not much longer than the current teacher help file but more up-to-date. --Gustav Delius 16:12, 20 March 2006 (WST)
- Darren, a big THANK YOU for your work on the Teacher documentation page - it's looking so much better now. :-)
- Gustav, I agree with all your points apart from the human-friendly explanation of the essentials being distributed with Moodle - it should be the Teacher documentation page (see Bug 4803 - Redirect help link in course administration block to Teacher documentation). --Helen Foster 16:54, 23 March 2006 (WST)
- Thanks Helen. A big thank you to you for this docs project! I am feeling better about the page now I finally removed the upload section. A lot of this stuff exists elsewhere so I am using the intro page as a jump station - seem fair enough? Also, is it possible to tell a page not to display a TOC as I think it would be more friendly if visiting teachers were presented with the introduction rather then a hyperlink list. --Darren Smith 04:57, 24 March 2006 (WST) (Is it possible to change the time in the sig?
- Hi Darren, please note that typing
removes the TOC. Your "jump station" plan sounds good to me :-) The signature time seems to be a bug. At least it's consistently wrong ;-) --Helen Foster 16:57, 24 March 2006 (WST)
- Hi Darren, please note that typing
- Hey Darren, ditto wonderful work here. I have not looked at this section in a couple of months. While I would like to assume that anyone looking at Moodle undertands links, I would still point out the obvious to teachers that there are links that lead to other pages with more details, right at the top. Just a clue will do.
Gets me thinking about cross linking the Demo Moodle to the appropriate MoodleDoc page(s). For example, if I look at the lesson topic, there is not only the lesson example but also lesson references in the topic that could serve as the overview, which contain links to MoodleDoc pages. That would assist potential new moodlers as well as serving as an example of walking the Moodle walk. Again - thanks for your effort.--chris collman 21:08, 25 April 2006 (WST)
I moved the instructions about logging in and troubleshooting logging in to their own pages so a) they can be expanded and b) it keeps the intro section concise. I have also restored the instructions stating that you need a teaching editing account or admin account as I feel that is an essential starting point. I have tweaked the new introduction but was tempted to remove it. Do we need to explain what moodle is here as it is covered elsewhere in the wiki? --Darren Smith 04:52, 5 April 2006 (WST)
- You're doing a great job Darren! Please feel free to remove the Moodle explanation. --Helen Foster 18:16, 10 April 2006 (WST)
- As a newbie to this wiki I though it prudent to put a link to the full teacher category at the top of the page, a way of going directly to an article that you may be interested in. --Lindsay Magnus 18:50, 17 July 2006 (WST)
- Lindsay thanks for comment, and change. I tweaked it to be even more obvious. I think new users should jump to the page Teacher. From the page teacher, there should be a See Also short list of links, such as the catagory index for teacher, perhaps to this page and links for a new administrator.
Consider that a new teacher might logically from Moodle.org click on "Free documentation", then "Welcome! Are you new, confused Start Here" then "Moodle Documentation" and then "Teacher Documentation". 4 logical clicks for the brand new user and this is where they end up. New users are not dumb and quickly notice this page is about the mechanics of course, not about a teacher or a teacher's approach to Moodle. Yeah my usual new user soapbox which has to be balanced by the user who wants to know the basics of a course from a teacher's perspective.
There have been a lot of excellent changes to this page that really help our community get what they need faster. Best to all --chris collman 23:23, 30 July 2006 (WST)