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3) One final comment/plea: Whatever you do to create this workflow option, please make sure it doesn't separate the parts of the assessment that a teacher needs to see in one place. (ie. please try to help teachers keep the work, the rubric, the workflow comments, and the directions all relatively close to each other and not layered in such a way as they would need to flip between several screens to remember where they are.) | 3) One final comment/plea: Whatever you do to create this workflow option, please make sure it doesn't separate the parts of the assessment that a teacher needs to see in one place. (ie. please try to help teachers keep the work, the rubric, the workflow comments, and the directions all relatively close to each other and not layered in such a way as they would need to flip between several screens to remember where they are.) --Thanks again for giving us something else to look forward to in 2.5! --Lesli Smith | ||
Latest revision as of 21:01, 28 January 2013
28 Jan 2013: Thank you, Dan, for requesting community feedback here: https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=220723 on 27 Jan 2013 (for my timezone).
First, I'm really excited about the addition of this capability to better control marking allocation and grade release options. I've been using the Turnitin.com integration assignment type (which I know is something you helped design) for some of the major essay assignments in the course I'm currently teaching, and the ability to select a "release grades" date is VERY nice.
Some specific comments on the main use-cases:
Use cases
1) One marker, Marker wants to release all grades at the same time Marker enables "Use marking workflow"
>>Just an itty bitty semantic issue: Everyone steeped in project management and software development is going to be fine with the word "workflow," but it isn't exactly an everyday word/use-case for teachers. The workshop mod "workflow" use of the word "phase" instead of workflow is a little more understandable in academia. Sooo...maybe "Use marking phase settings options" or something like that. Also, without reading your explanation here, I would have never even thought beyond the multiple markers use-case, so if there is something in the flags/help section that lets teachers know this feature isn't just for multiple markers, but that it is also super useful in one-teacher scenarios, that would be helpful, too.
Marker marks each submission and transitions the grading to "Marking completed" as each submission is graded. Marker then uses the batch operations to transition all grades to "Released" at the same time.
>>Awesome. I'm so looking forward to this.
2) Multiple markers, Marker enables "Use marking workflow" Marker marks each submission and transitions the grading to "Marking completed" as each submission is graded. Marker then uses the batch operations to transition all grades to "Released" at the same time.
>>I've been following the conversations here on https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-33600 pretty closely, and it seems as if what you are proposing will accomplish this request and more. Regarding multiple markers, though, I'm wondering how each marker will communicate their phase/stage to the next marker in a case such as the one Wolfgang Kimmig outlines in his comments, "In many cases more than one person works on the feedback-comment. With this in mind, you should only send notifications about the feedback when it is complete." The "only send feedback when comments are complete part" is mostly satisfied but I'm not sure how markers will be able to communicate what they did, why, and where the next person goes next. Maybe it's because I've been playing with Tim Hunt's workflow options block that has this "next step" feature that I am thinking about it and how useful that would be on a multiple marker/super complex layered assessment in a case where, say a kid has completed an assessment and did not pass, was sent to a reading coach for remediation, wherein the reading coach needs to interact with the marking/comments and send it back to the classroom teacher and/or in numerous cases where it would be handy to more dynamically document the intervention steps that have been taken (this is US ed-speak; we have to carefully document all of the different ways we've tried to help kids reach a certain benchmark and/or educational goal in their ed plans). In some cases, the comments feature (that is visible to the student) would be perfectly fine for this conversation, but in some cases the teachers need to communicate where it isn't visible to students. I hope I'm making sense, here. Perhaps the use of the notes on students feature is one way to handle this need, but the more this type of conversation can happen as close to the assessment records as possible, I think the more valuable it will be.
3) One final comment/plea: Whatever you do to create this workflow option, please make sure it doesn't separate the parts of the assessment that a teacher needs to see in one place. (ie. please try to help teachers keep the work, the rubric, the workflow comments, and the directions all relatively close to each other and not layered in such a way as they would need to flip between several screens to remember where they are.) --Thanks again for giving us something else to look forward to in 2.5! --Lesli Smith
