Talk:Files usability 2.3

Another nice usability idea: MDL-23044 thumbnails in the filepicker in more cases (My private files, Server files, Recent files and File system repository would be the obvious ones to add.)

-- MD: yes we had that one. Updated with the link

Comment for C5: Server Files by Ralf Hilgenstock - Show only courses where user has access to - Course category names are often not in aware, so they could be hidden - User expect that all fields used in course context are available here. This includes activities and ressources. What happens with third party modules?

-- MD: yes, good call on the "my courses" only. Added that.

Comment for D2: Add the ability to "replace" files by Ralf Hilgenstock We discussed this with lots of clients. File versioning is not so easy to handle even if same files are used by several users. Some cases: .- Teacher 1 adds a file to several courses and wants to update the file in all courses. That is the standard situation. Mostly s/he is aware where the file is been used. .- Teacher 2 adds a file to a long term syllabus to course 1a and has a course 1b with same topic in the next term. The syllabus is been updated for the course 1b and the file has the same name. The new syllabus should be used in courses 1b only. It should not be changed accidentially in course 1a. .-Teacher 3 adds a file to his course. Student 1 reads the document this week. During weekend a new version is been uploaded and replaced the first one. Student 2 reads next week version 2. At the end of week the teacher discusses the document in the class and students will be confused because they red different versions. .-Teacher 4 adds a document into a course. Teacher 5 takes the document into its own course via server files. Teacher 4 updates the document. S/he is not aware that Teacher 5 also uses the document. Teacher 5 don't get an information that the document is been updated and is confused if students read different content

During the discussions we found that teacher don't understand the the complexity of versioning of documents until its defined for different situations. Some aspects: - who is document owner and who can update - can I predefine what happens with a document that I initially upload to the pool/course/activity (i.e. never update, always update in own contexts, always update in other users contexts, select replacement individually per context where it is been used, send notification to all users with information about changes) - is there a notification about all contexts where a document is used - can I choose replacement for the different contexts - did other users of a document get a notification if some else updated the document.

-- MD: I believe that this will be solved when we finish Improved_support_for_external_File_content also in 2.3. The linking/copying behaviour will work consistently across Moodle then and it should be fairly clear what will be updated and when.

Other comments

1. Finding files in server takes a lot of clicks, probably 3.3.5. Is this the place for a request for search?
2. 3.3.5 Tree structure in Filepicker: I've had my say here: http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-27236. Omit if possible the extra folders.
3. 2.1.2 Simgle click upload: There is some thinking here: http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-19075 IMO inserting an image should also be streamlined. I do take the point of the problem of several ways to do things.

Good to see the progress here on this page! --Derek Chirnside 18:05, 25 February 2012 (WST)

-- MD: Search is global search and a separate project. The other links are welcome, thanks. Added them.