Talk:Roles and permissions

Main space notes

No longer development page

Think we need to spend some time with every page on the Roles template now that these pages have moved from the Development: space to the Main: space. I will be making page comments and placing the stub template on some more blatant development jargon pages over the next few days.

This page for example is the link on the "Roles" template header. We could use with a simple introduction to roles that introduces the 4 aspects. And gives a context for the template terminology (perhaps similar to teacher documentation or lesson module pages). And yes a visual diagram would be nice.

I wonder about the name of this page. "Roles" would do as an overpage. Or drop the conjunction in the name to "Role capabilities". This is something for those who monitor MoodleSpeak to consider. --Chris collman 05:59, 20 February 2008 (CST)

Hi Chris, I don't think it matters whether this page is named "Roles and capabilities" or simply "Roles", since Roles redirects to Roles and capabilities. I'd like the page to provide a brief introduction to roles for teachers and for administrators. --Helen Foster 04:26, 21 February 2008 (CST)

Development page comments

Need diagram

Development:Roles [[1]] shows 8 possible contexts in order of granularity. It appears that Personal and User come after System just before Course Category. I think what is needed here is a pictorial diagram similar to the Metacourses [[2]] diagram. Perhaps even a Venn-like diagram [3] for Contexts, Roles, Capabilities, Permissions, Groups. This is not an easy concept to put into words, but a picture is worth 1000 words (in English, maybe more in another language.)

Context Hierarchy Diagram for 1.7

A diagram like this perhaps?

(is there a bigger diagram? ) (.psd available)

Martin Dougiamas 19:27, 14 February 2007 (CST): Actually it's more like this in 1.8 (can someone draw a diagram?):

----------------------------------SYSTEM------------------------------------------- ------CATEGORIES---------------------- ------SITE COURSE (FRONT PAGE)------ --------PERSONAL---------- -----USER------ ---------NORMAL COURSES--------------- -----ACTIVITIES---- -----BLOCKS--- -----ACTIVITIES---- -----BLOCKS-----

Diagram

I have made the diagram but I don't know how to upload it. Please help.

Nidhi Chopra Delhi, India

Hi Nidhi, We do not have instructions in help on how to upload files. Here is a quick one. On the left in the Toolbox block (here in MoodleDocs) you should see upload file. Upload the diagram. Then I like to copy just the pictures name, for example Newfile.jpg. Then go to the page you want the image, edit the page, type or paste in the picture name where you want the picture to appear, then block the name, use the picture icon on the html edit toolbar. It should look like this: [[Image:Newfile.jpg]] now save the page. Someobdy like me will then come along and help with the format of the picture.

Hope this helps. Here is some help instructions I wrote for my Return Peace Corps group's wiki. The diagram is a picture, I have also put a link there for some tips on how size a picture. But there are many people here in MoodleDocs who can help you, once the picture is uploaded. --Chris collman 19:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)Chris