Talk:Site administration menu 2.0

I am not sure about this page name. However, I think it should be organized like the Site administration block page We will probably have to keep that page for a few years for legacy Moodles. I put the picture on this page as a reference. I will create sections for each item shown. Then we can add short links under these to the relevant pages in MoodleDocs. --Chris collman 14:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Questions

Back to the what to call a Rose, when there is no page. Should links on this page link to (currently non existing) pages called "XYZ settings", or "Manage XYZ" ? We have a bunch to add and or bring over from development:, so having a consistent nomenclature would be a noble goal. --Chris collman 14:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Still undecided about names

I have always tended to tell people to go to "Lesson settings", instead of "Update this Lesson". I think that goes back to 1.5 and the name of the window. I have had to watch my use of words in MoodleDocs to reflect this change. Now we are changing things again, where we will direct teachers to Settings, and Admins to 2 places in the "Settings block". We currently call the Updating Lesson page "Adding/editing a lesson".

I suggest we call the Moodle 2.0 page for teachers Updating a Lesson and have the page for site administrators called Lesson settings ? This allows us to leave the legacy pages ( for example: Adding/editing a lesson) intact. Perhaps a new template that indicates this is only for pre 2.0 versions would also be a good idea in transition for the next couple of years.

UI overview of pages and links between 1.9 and 2.0

In 2.0 the "Update this Lesson" button has gone away for the teacher and the "Settings block" contains the "Lesson administration" heading and under that "Settings" which links to a "Updating Lesson" window. For those with the right permissions, Lesson administration also contains: Locally assigned roles, Permissions,, Check permissions, Preview, Edit, Report, and Grade Essays.

In 2.0, for those with the right permissions(admin), more lesson settings can be found in the "Settings block" under "Site administration>Plugins>Activity Modules>Lesson". So these settings are hidden for someone with teacher permissions.

In 1.9, the help button at the bottom of the "Updating Lesson" window leads to mod/lesson/mod, which is redirected to Add/edit Lesson. In 2.0 the window with the same name, does the same thing.

In 2.0, the help button at the bottom of the "Site administration>Plugins>Activity Modules>Lesson" page leads to admin/setting/modsettinglesson .

Site administration documentation

Hi Chris, just wondering whether we need a separate page for site administration in 2.0 or whether additional information and links could be added to Site administration block as for Course administration block? Also, I wonder how useful such pages are. As they're not linked to from within Moodle, how do people find them? Hmm, just noticed that Site administration block has been accessed 43,369 times, so it can't just be me and you, Chris, looking at it! --Helen Foster 12:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

What ever link or block you call it, site administration in Moodle 2.0 is very different in some sections (ie Plugins with activity, resource and block defaults) than older versions. In fact the whole pervasive "Settings block" is a radical change in 2.0 (I like it). For me, it is not part of the "site administration block" any more, and almost ditto the Course administration block (however I have not really looked at 2.0 course settings yet). I really wanted to be clear (it is all about me) where we needed pages and where existing pages existed. I tried to keep it sparse with just links for people who want to jump straight similar to the admin page in MoodleDocs. Living collaborative documents are so much fun! As usual, thanks for your comments :)--Chris collman 15:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)