Talk:Grades

Gradebook

This page refers to gradebook. I suspect this is old MoodleSpeak. Can somebody tell me where this is used in 1.8 and beyond? Search on Gradebook redirects to Grades. Thanks --Chris collman 14:08, 13 September 2007 (CDT)

Hi Chris, the link in the course admin block is called Grades, however it seems that the grades pages are often referred to as the Gradebook (in all versions of Moodle).

We will need to completely re-write grades for Moodle 1.9 (see Development:Grades). Maybe we can stop using the word Gradebook then, and instead use Grader report. What do you think? --Helen Foster 04:41, 24 September 2007 (CDT)

Hi Helen and others. I do like the word "gradebook". A gradebook is a report(s) used to summarize students scores/progress/activity in a course/classroom (in my opinion). Best --Chris collman 06:12, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

Yes, you're right Chris, let's use the word gradebook to refer to all the grades pages in Moodle and use Grader report for the grader report page within a course gradebook. --Helen Foster 03:28, 17 February 2008 (CST)

Grades need editing for users

Looks like Grades-gradebook pages are starting to mature from the pre 1.9 version. There is great information on this page and in the {{Grades}} box links.

Is it me? I find this page confusing as an introduction. This comment was prompted by seeing in the introduction section:

"The three building blocks of the Gradebook in Moodle 1.9 are:    
   * The grade category
   * The grade item
   * The grade (this page)

"(this page)" never defines a grade (grin). There should be links to more information about "grade category", "grade item". These are little things that can indicate the subject matter is more mature than the documentation. (big grin).

I will spend a little time putting in links in the article to other article pages and then moving on to each page in the box. Please let me know if I "don't get" a concept or should stop. I am a novice with the wonderful new Gradebook.

We have some potential conflicting viewpoints for this page. I see the developer's concepts behind gradebook plus the usual teacher and administrator viewpoints. I would like to see the pages start with something for the teacher who has a paper gradebook and now is going to use Moodle for the first time. I respect other viewpoints, so I will propose those changes on the comment page later. --Chris collman 06:51, 5 June 2008 (CDT)

Basic definitions

I think this sets the overall context.

A grade is a score given to a student. Typically a score can be given for a some kind of course activity or for a course. A course grade can be calculated from specific activities items and each item can be weighted. There are several options for the display of a grade.
A gradebook is a collection of each grade given to each student. There are course gradebooks and sitewide student gradebooks. While there are editing links in the gradebook, these take the teacher back to specific grade pages for a specific student, an activity item or a course. A gradebook can display grades organized by outcomes.

For me this starts to give context for "grade item", "grade category", "grade display" and "outcomes". We can almost use internal links in the above definitions and not go into much details. However, I would like to see all the box items words, worked into some paragraphs on this page. The Teacher documentation page would be an example of this kind of approach.

I am not a big fan of bullets and numbered lists, especially in an introduction page. I like headings and subheadings because of the TOC that allows the more experienced user to jump to the section to learn more. And they are more specific jumps to link to in a Forum discussion. For me, bullets and numbers are very useful for instructions and tips. My opinion, just as I like color not colour (grin).--Chris collman 08:05, 5 June 2008 (CDT)

Pre-1.9 links

Notice there were questions about where to go for pre 1.9 and a link provided on this page. I will add that link to the Gradebook template at the bottom. Notice that the Administration template has Grades which points to this page, so we will have some confuzeled people and the reason I will add the pre 1.9 to the template. Sorry to be so long winded. --Chris collman 09:48, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

Hi Chris, many thanks for responding to questions about the documentation :-) However, I think the course administration block should contain pre-1.9 links, rather than the grades block, since all the other links in the grades block apply to Moodle 1.9. Also, it doesn't look good having two navigation blocks on a page. Do you agree? --Helen Foster 12:28, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

Hi Helen, see what you did, that is also logical to me. And the 2 blocks along with the image template definitely looked very strange. So I split the difference and picked 2 "big grin". The Pre and Post 1.9 Grades in the Admin block should work for a couple of more years. Thanks--Chris collman 12:59, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

Grades and Grading

We have grades in Administration block and grading under the lesson module. Grading is sort of pleasantly rambling and has an overview of a grading philosophy,--Chris collman 22:44, 4 September 2006 (CDT)

Grades(Students)

Wonder if we want to have a page that tells the student about the "gradebook" aka "grades" icon. Some cut and paste from this excellent page. This is part of my recent "where is student information in the student catagory" soapbox.--Chris collman 08:58, 14 October 2006 (CDT)

1.7 Dev

plenty of php errors and there's the problem of zero value categories being included in the calculations. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4564301396166901004 --Dennis Daniels 12:30, 31 May 2006 (WST)

Hi Dennis, please use the bug tracker for reporting bugs. Thanks! --Helen Foster 16:08, 31 May 2006 (WST)

Organize and Organise

As someone who lives in rural Northern New Hampshire, USA: my spell checker says organise is mis-spelled. However, I keep an open mind having once been told I was one of those arrogant, provincial, ethnocentric, "Ugly Americans" who thought nobody else in the world spoke accurate English. (huge grin here).

I am going to revert in the interest of tolerance.

Here is a note in wikipedia on the subject of -ize and -ise.--Chris collman 10:49, 28 September 2008 (CDT)

Just fixed a typo or two, LLH, Sept 29, 2008 - Moodlerooms Assignment.

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